this is just unfortunate. :(

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this is just unfortunate. :(

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go here
www.make-stuff.com/hollidays/christmas.html

you'll get redirected to here
http://www.make-stuff.com/ad-check.htm

they have now reduced to making you "literally pay" for looking at the site with adblock, or you can shell out a few pennies for their demand. they also make you use cookies, screw them!!!

1. EnvironmentalChemistry.com
2. Make-Stuff.com

hopefully this doesn't become any more of a trend, i probably spoke to soon.
Guest

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they kindly left an email address how nice of them, and now we submit them some spam: dc@dcs-realm.com probably the best email those assholes recieved in years
Guest

Post by Guest »

No problems with this adblock plus:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=266291
Guest

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Website wrote: 1. EnvironmentalChemistry.com
This site is different, it does not detect if you have Adblock, it detects if you block their ads.
Difference is, that you can block ads also without Adblock or any other ad blocking software, like just use Default Firefox or Opera and turn "Image load" or JavaScript Off, and you get "Banner Blocking Detected" -message.
Guest

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it is the same kind of thing. it detects if ads are block in general.
Guest

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No man, it's not same thing.
Okey, I don't know about Make-stuff.com,
but this one:
http://digitalhomecanada.com/forum/
did detect adblock plus 0.5.10
even when block list was totally empty.

I'am pretty sure that Make-stuff is same, because i use now Adblock plus 0.5.11 and Make-stuff and Digitalhomecanada does not detect me, and i do block their ads.

ps: you can still download 0.5.10 here:
http://bene.sitesled.com/adblock.htm
maybe i'am going to, and test Make-stuff, to be sure.
Guest

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Or mr: Website, uses Filterset G with Adblock plus, and some Make-stuff.com JavaScript is blocked.

But anyway, That site does not detect Adblock Plus 0.5.11,
And so far i have blocked all their flash ads with Adblock.
Guest

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dude.. the site detected adblock even 5.11 i dont know how ur settings are but i have noscript disabled and enabled both catch adblock
Guest

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are you blind i said

1. EnvironmentalChemistry.com
2. Make-Stuff.com

i never mentioned http://digitalhomecanada.com/forum/ it does not detect adblock with javascript disabled or adblock 5.11 but the two i mentioned detected ads being blocked in general! what are u doing to bypass them?
Guest

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Anonymous wrote: 1. EnvironmentalChemistry.com
No workaround.
(I never said there is.)
Anonymous wrote: 2. Make-Stuff.com
Block everything else, except this:
http://ad.ad-check.com/checkit.js

So Make-Stuff was not similar with
http://digitalhomecanada.com/forum/
My guess was wrong about that.
But you still can block all ads there, just don't block that JavaScript file.
Vallejo

Post by Vallejo »

The whitelist filter should be @@ad-check -- with this whitelisted, make-stuff.com worked for me.
Guest

Post by Guest »

still getting redirect at any rate if i press "Esc" before it redirects i can view the contact, again i'm using 5.10
Guest

Post by Guest »

I have javascript disabled btw.
Guest

Re: this is just unfortunate. :(

Post by Guest »

Website wrote: they have now reduced to making you "literally pay" for looking at the site with adblock, or you can shell out a few pennies for their demand. they also make you use cookies, screw them!!!

1. EnvironmentalChemistry.com
2. Make-Stuff.com

hopefully this doesn't become any more of a trend, i probably spoke to soon.
I would agree that some advertising has become extremely obnoxious, but it is advertising that pays for most of the content and services we are able to use for free on the Internet. Without advertising we would either have to pay for said services or those services simply wouldn't exist. Being required to choose between free ad-supported access or paid ad-free access is reasonable.

Why should websites provide their services to people who are not willing to compensate websites for their services? Producing quality content and delivering that content costs time, money and resources. It is perfectly reasonable for web publishers to expect compensation for their efforts and it is completely unreasonable to believe you have a right to services that you are unwilling to pay some form of compensation for. If you want to block ads, fine, but you also have to expect to occasionally be denied access or required to pay for ad-free access to some sites.

As time progresses, more and more sites will block users who block ads or will require users to pay a fee for ad free access as http://EnvironmentalChemistry.com does.

In regards to contacting websites and flaming them for their tactics, I would advise against sending rude or inflammatory messages. All this does is make the sender look like an idiot and harden the resolve of the website's publisher that they have made the right tactical move as this is not the kind of user they want on their site anyways. If you are blocked because of ad-blocking and the site does not provide an ad-free option, I would suggest sending a polite message asking the site to provide an ad-free subscription option.

At least Adblock Plus provides you an easy way to white list sites that you need to use but aren't able to gain ad-free access to.
guest-Oh

Add them to Support Websites

Post by guest-Oh »

Just add the site to the Support Websites feature in Adblock, that way you still don't have to look at their ads.

Check out the recommendations on another site using this "ad-check" code, it gives you an idea of the technical level of the people who thought it would be a good idea to go this route (from http://www.craft-central-station.com/ad-check.htm )

"To pass the needed information please check:
That you have no ad blockers running.
If you are using a firewall that you disable it.
Check that your securely setting are set to medium"

Sure, I'll just go ahead and disable my firewall to make sure your banners shine through loud and clear...oh, and can you fax me some power, I seem to be running a little low.
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