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Discussion on how to block ads on a certain site, why your filter doesn't work or how it can be optimized

Postby ICER » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:06 am

huluwatcher wrote:
the situation with hulu has just gotten worse. now, instead of the 30 second black screen,it's back to regular ads. i was much happier with the generic message than seeing annoying ads for a honda i'll never buy. is there anything that can be done about this?


Don't watch hulu. People trying to pirate hulu is going to ruin the first good solid shot at a real internet network with good programming. When they're swimming in money and making commercials longer than they need to be, then pirate it. For now let them get the F*** off the ground.


I totally agree. I used to be an ignoramus like most here - trying to search for every little exploit to block commercials Hulu and ABC player... but I woke up and stopped acting like a freaking rebellious teenager.
Do you not understand the simple concept here? ADS = FREE. Can I simplify it even more? If Hulu continues to get their adds blocked, then they will be forced to remove their content. They are doing US a favor.
Argue all you want about how it's your PC. However, they are not forcing you to watch their content. THEIR content...
I never thought the day would come when people would be too ungrateful to accept FREE T.V. lol
I wonder how cheap software, movies and music would be if pirates didn't exist. *sigh*
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Postby reepicheep » Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:06 pm

ICER wrote:I wonder how cheap software, movies and music would be if pirates didn't exist. *sigh*


The software side is easy. Use open source sooftware. Let's see what example can I use ... oh yes firefox and AdBlockPlus.

Not being in the US I don't give a flying fig about ABC or Hulu --- whoever that is --- none of the ad contnet is applicable to me. Not that I view anything on ABC anyway. Now the BBC I do use and oh let's see the online content is free. No ads on the web site nor on their web-based catch service either. Same too for the other British broadcasters and their online content.

A closer analogy would be cold calls. Do I have to answer them? No I don't and I don't. Just had one come through with call ID displayed as "Unavailable". This is usuaylly some toe-rag in a call center outisde of the UK ignoring the fact that my number is marked as not accepting cold calls.
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Hulu Video Ads AND Click-On Ads

Postby Spooky Boo » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:08 pm

Yes, Adblock Plus is currently NOT filtering the live video ads nor those click-on ads that appear just to the right of the video box (after a video has been watched). It's apparent that Adblock is now taking "ad" money from Hulu/NBC (not ABC) to allow once-blocked ads to appear regardless of how many filters are in place. Even EasyList does not work with Hulu. I'm sure all of this was agreed upon in some sleezy hazed-filled establishment in West Hollywood with Hulu/NBC picking up the tab. I think Blago just found a choice of two companies he can now work for...
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Ads yea right

Postby boss » Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:05 pm

Hulu makes money from their ads using a CPM model, meaning they make money if you watch the show, not the ad.

I decided to skip the ads all together because the volume for their ads has recently become very loud. boo

Oh, I did email Hulu about this issue.

adblockplus is da bomb!


For all you straight laced people who are hating on this thread, why the heck are you even wasting your time posting? It probably means you are using this addon and blocking legit ads, you bad person, you are going to hell of sure now!
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Re: Hulu Video Ads AND Click-On Ads

Postby edjolanski » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:06 pm

Spooky Boo wrote:Yes, Adblock Plus is currently NOT filtering the live video ads nor those click-on ads that appear just to the right of the video box (after a video has been watched). It's apparent that Adblock is now taking "ad" money from Hulu/NBC (not ABC) to allow once-blocked ads to appear regardless of how many filters are in place. Even EasyList does not work with Hulu. I'm sure all of this was agreed upon in some sleezy hazed-filled establishment in West Hollywood with Hulu/NBC picking up the tab. I think Blago just found a choice of two companies he can now work for...


I hope this post was entirely sarcastic, otherwise you are a complete idiot.

Hulu is using the *proprietary* Flash player, which doesn't adhere to any internet standards! It is closed-source binary code that can EASILY bypass adblock plus or anything you throw at it. It already bypasses your proxy server settings. I believe they have probably found a way to make it technologically impossible to block their ads using Adblock Plus, and that it requires the use of an advanced packet filter! I'm not sure of this, just a guess. Sadly, this is the world we are choosing to live in as long as we allow proprietary, closed-source software like Adobe Flash to exist on our computers. Just say no to Flash!
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Postby rick752 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:31 pm

The ads CAN be blocked ... unfortunately, it comes at the cost that it causes ALL allotted ad time to run for 30 seconds (instead of the shorter 7,10, or 15 seconds). I figured it was easier to see a 7 second ad at the beginning than a 30 second 'blank' player. Nothing can be done by ABP afaict to keep that time from passing while the ad is blocked. The code to block those was released in this topic ... but I decided it wasn't worth it.

You would all know that if you read this entire topic .... especially YOU, Spooky Boo. You are either a troll or an illiterate. :?

Now excuse me while I spend all of the money that hulu gave me :P
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Postby IceDogg » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:43 pm

rick752 wrote:Now excuse me while I spend all of the money that hulu gave me :P

LOL, don't forget you said you'd buy me a beer to keep quite. (JOKE, just in case some don't catch it)
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Postby rick752 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:45 pm

IceDogg wrote:....don't forget you said you'd buy me a beer to keep quite.


A beer? I'll buy you a case! :D
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Postby IceDogg » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:56 pm

rick752 wrote:
IceDogg wrote:....don't forget you said you'd buy me a beer to keep quite.


A beer? I'll buy you a case! :D


WOOOOO! I just didn't want to be greedy. :D
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HULU has outfoxed ADBLOCK PLUS and EASYLIST

Postby Spooky Spooky Boo Boo » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:05 am

I have read the entire topic here regarding Hulu ads, additional filter codes, etc. What people want are no 30-second ads which is what Hulu is now giving us even with Adblock Plus, EasyList, and all the filter codes listed in this topic. I would much rather see those 30-second black screen shots as before than another 30-second commercial of LeBron James joining the Cleveland Browns.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled both Adblock Plus and EasyList and reinserted all the filter codes listed above with no result. Instead, I am now seeing multiple 30-second ads during a 30-minute show as if Adblock Plus and EasyList are not even found on my system.

If it's because Hulu has just very recently tweaked its proprietary Flash viewer to bypass all the cleverness that Adblock and EasyList surely once possessed, then admit it and move on (whether you're a Hula ad supporter or Rick over at EasyList).

And about those additional filter codes: Adblock Plus and EasyList shouldn't even have to require the insertion of additional filter codes in order to bypass Hulu ads as those codes should be built in and included in all automatic updates.

I'm glad someone knows what sarcasm is (i.e. West Hollywood sleaze money paid to Adblock).

Again, even with Adblock Plus, EasyList, and the latest additional filter codes, I am now seeing multiple 30-second ads per a 30-minute showing (and not the much preferred black screen shots). All of this started within the last couple of weeks after Hulu updated its site with hundreds of new shows and made several other changes.

As to some of the other replies, you can't have it both ways. We have one side saying that Hulu uses proprietary Flash code which bypasses any attempts by Adblock and EasyList to filter their ads and then we Rick over at EasyList saying the exact opposite: that EasyList works with Hulu (when used in conjunction with this or that additional filter code).

In summary, I would prefer seeing those 30-second black screen shots OR just a few of those purported 7-second ads. Instead, Adblock Plus and EasyList are providing neither of these options but are allowing Hulu to outfox them. Just watch one episode on Hulu of THE ROCKFORD FILES and you will see many actual 30-SECOND ADS that are not being filtered regardless of what add-ons or codes you have (at least on my system which has the latest Adblock and EasyList updates)...
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Forget the video ads in Hulu, what about the regular ads?

Postby Spooky Spooky Boo Boo » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:33 am

Putting aside all talk about the Hulu video ads that Adblock Plus and EasyList no longer filter, what about the simple non-video ads found to the right of the Hulu video viewer (you know, the stupid ads like those from DIRECT RELIEF INTERNATIONAL with the Pakastani girl in the red garb)? These are not being blocked either (with or without additional filter codes). Again, another example of Hulu outfoxing the fox. Adblock Plus and EasyList should automatically filter these non-video ads without requiring users to fiddle and fidget around with the latest Rick-written code. Most people do not have master's degrees in computer science and only want an easy filter add-on without having to screw around with additional bits of filter code (which no longer work with Hulu anyway)...
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Re: Forget the video ads in Hulu, what about the regular ads

Postby rick752 » Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:56 am

Spooky Spooky Boo Boo wrote:Putting aside all talk about the Hulu video ads that Adblock Plus and EasyList no longer filter, what about the simple non-video ads found to the right of the Hulu video viewer (you know, the stupid ads like those from DIRECT RELIEF INTERNATIONAL with the Pakastani girl in the red garb)? These are not being blocked either


I see nothing but the player ... there is no right ad here ... unless I'm looking in the wrong places.

I see that the inline ads have changed their structure, so the previous whitelist will not work now. I haven't noticed because I allow the inline video ads to run (per previous posts). I'll look and see if anything can be done when I have time ... there may not be anything ABP can do.

Like others have mentioned, it is possible that the proprietary player may be to blame ... that wasn't the case when this topic first started.
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(inter)networked intelligence vs the networks' fascism

Postby Wisdom Fluxion » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:43 am

Adblock Plus Fan wrote:Can't access the movies because I'm outside the US


this allegedly will allow you to watch

Code: Select all
hotspotshield.com


reepicheep wrote:cold calls. Do I have to answer them? No I don't and I don't. Just had one come through with call ID displayed as "Unavailable"


in the USA many have the option of enabling a phone feature: anonymous call rejection... the phone does not ring without caller-id shown. Take it to the next level with Asterisk ;)


rick752 wrote:Nothing can be done by ABP afaict to keep that time from passing while the ad is blocked.


sure, but grail: https://adblockplus.org/forum/viewtopic. ... 2856#22856 ? :}


Spooky Spooky Boo Boo wrote: What people want are no 30-second ads


What people (me) want is: not to have to pay to see content I've already paid for. I have the channels via TV provider. I want FCC compliant devices which allow me to capture the media I've paid for the way I WANT TO (the quality level I want, the bitrate I want, the codec I want, in the container I want, at the time I want, on the medium I want)

Hulu has just very recently tweaked its proprietary Flash viewer to bypass all the cleverness that Adblock and EasyList surely once possessed


industry fan boi / drm apologist: this is an arms race you will surely lose (again)



you can't have it both ways
yes, I can.

And why? I pay for content via TV provider and they have the audacity to run interstitial ads!! WTH?
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Is it only me?

Postby 'Blockadges' » Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:06 am

The large media companies Disney, *BC, *NN etc are all in favor of the law which allows them to continue to make money off of long paid for sunken cost (Creation of Mickey Mouse etc) but then have a breakdown when the law might benefit the public. (for example the end of control on the likeness of Mickey Mouse) At that point the law is broken (err "rewritten") to suit their aims and life continues (for them) as before. They can allow their products to be used abroad and gain a worldwide market share for their other products. Or they can jealously guard their old product and watch their profits follow M$'s lead.
M$ used to let the Pirates debug their software in exchange for a blind eye, they now guard it and are watching Linux take off. Hollywood shouldn't forget that Slumdog Millionaire was not made or financed in the US and did not use any US actors. :shock:

I guess that I am saying play a part and make money off of product placements or watch your market & the money disappear. In the interim.... torrents... :o
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Viewing Hulu...

Postby Curious Guest » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:08 pm

I live out side of the US, personally don't watch Huhu because I don't like it, not because I can't. There are a bunch of better sites. I rather go to Megavideo and it's one of my last options because of the time restriction...

Anyways I don't like people telling me what I can & can't do so(Plus this is the World Wide Web not the US web). If anyone outside US wants to see Hulu.

Here is a free guide that uses a free VPN program:
http://www.kuanhoong.com/2007/12/18/how ... de-of-usa/

There used to be a google VPN but I never had a chance to test it. You can use the VPN of your choice.
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