[Removed] gutefrage.net search & content ads

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[Removed] gutefrage.net search & content ads

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Proposed filters

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||gutefrage.net/px.js?ch=2
@@||ex.banner.t-online.de/ttj?id=$script,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||adnxs.com/ttj?id=$script,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||adnxs.com/if?enc^$subdocument,document,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/$script,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?$script,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/ads?*^ad_type=text^$subdocument,document,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk^$subdocument,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk^$subdocument,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||google.com/uds/$script,subdocument,document,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||google.com/cse?$subdocument,document,domain=gutefrage.net
@@||google.com/aclk^$subdocument,domain=gutefrage.net
gutefrage.net#@#.googleAdsense
gutefrage.net#@#.block-ad
If approved, the same filters will also be applied to the domains autofrage.net, computerfrage.net, finanzfrage.net, gesundheitsfrage.net, motorradfrage.net, produktfrage.net, reisefrage.net and sportlerfrage.net.

Link to a test page
http://www.gutefrage.net/fragen/offene/1
http://www.gutefrage.net/suche?q=iphone&ie=UTF-8

Advertising type
Google text ads above, between and under questions (entries)
Google text ads in the right sidebar
Plista ads with small static banners at the bottom of the page

Sponsored Google search results above search results

Additional Technical Information
None.

Concerns
None.
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Re: gutefrage.net search & content ads

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Added.
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Re: [Reopened] gutefrage.net search & content ads

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Reopened due to serving of intrusive ads. We are currently in talks with them to resolve the issue and are otherwise forced to cancel the whitelisting.
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Re: [Reopened] gutefrage.net search & content ads

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Ads inside questions have now been moved to the bottom.
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Re: [Under review] gutefrage.net search & content ads

Post by 123 »

Yes, I would also say that ads on gutefrage.net are not acceptable. They seem like a normal user contribution, with a tiny little caption "Anzeige" exactly between the ad and the above user post. The only other difference is the image on the left, but it even has the same colours.

IIRC this isn't the first time they changed the ads significantly after being accepted.

EDIT: For now, I'll remove the acceptable ads checkbox.
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Re: [Under review] gutefrage.net search & content ads

Post by ManuelC »

123 wrote:Yes, I would also say that ads on gutefrage.net are not acceptable. They seem like a normal user contribution, with a tiny little caption "Anzeige" exactly between the ad and the above user post. The only other difference is the image on the left, but it even has the same colours.

IIRC this isn't the first time they changed the ads significantly after being accepted.

EDIT: For now, I'll remove the acceptable ads checkbox.
Actually, these ads were put under review because the original proposal did not correspond to the ads they serve now. We detected those changes and contacted them to get the proposal updated.
Also, some late changes on Google AfC ads resulted in the disappearance of the "advertising" label on some of them. We are currently solving this issue as well.
As per the ad units you refer to, they actually do comply with the Acceptable Ads criteria, since they are labeled as such in two different ways: 1. Label on top left. 2. Exclamation symbol on the left to distinguish them from organic answers. They are also correctly separated from the content.

We will take your concerns into account though and bring them up among the ABP team to see if there is room for improvement here.

Thanks.
ManuelC

Re: [Under review] gutefrage.net search & content ads

Post by ManuelC »

Whitelist as per April 2015:

Link to a test page
http://www.gutefrage.net/frage/unterschied-32gb--16gb
http://www.gutefrage.net/fragen/offene/1
http://www.gutefrage.net/suche?q=iphone&ie=UTF-8

Advertising type
1. Google text ads at the bottom of the page on open questions pages
2. Google text ads between questions (entries)
3. Sponsored Google search results above search results

Additional Technical Information
None

Concerns
None
ManuelC

Re: [Under review] gutefrage.net search & content ads

Post by ManuelC »

Under review due to possible criteria violation. Recent changes made by Google in their AfC text ads have resulted in the automatic disappearance of the label. This currently only affects the ads at the bottom of the page on pages like this:

http://www.gutefrage.net/fragen/offene/1
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Re: [Under review] gutefrage.net search & content ads

Post by 123 »

innerself wrote:1. Label on top left.
I still see a problem with this, as the label is 1. not clearly referencing to the box below, because it's vertically in the visual middle of the user post above and the ad below, 2. in comparison to the ad barely visible (remarkably smaller font size, and similar font and background colour).
innerself wrote:2. Exclamation symbol on the left to distinguish them from organic answers.
I still see a problem with this, as the symbol is the only difference: the colour of the symbol, the background colour, the shape the symbols are on, the font of the content of the boxes are the same. Therefore, it's very hard to distinguish the ads at first sight.
innerself wrote:They are also correctly separated from the content.
They may be separated, but they still look much too similar to organic answers. In my opinion, unobtrusive ads shouldn't look all too much like organic answers, and should be distinguishable at first sight, not after having to check for minor differences.

On another note, sometimes (I'm not sure when exactly), the symbol on the left of the ads are the same quotation marks which are used for the posts. Have a recent screenshot:
Image
ManuelC

Re: [Under review] gutefrage.net search & content ads

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123 wrote:I still see a problem with this, as the label is 1. not clearly referencing to the box below, because it's vertically in the visual middle of the user post above and the ad below, 2. in comparison to the ad barely visible (remarkably smaller font size, and similar font and background colour).
According to the natural reading flow, top left is the first spot to be read. Still, a bigger label would be ideal.
123 wrote:I still see a problem with this, as the symbol is the only difference: the colour of the symbol, the background colour, the shape the symbols are on, the font of the content of the boxes are the same. Therefore, it's very hard to distinguish the ads at first sight.
There are more differences. The word "Antwort" is missing on the ads and substituted by the ad headline. Feedback icons are missing, and an extra button with an arrow -common on Google's AfC ads- is showing.
123 wrote:On another note, sometimes (I'm not sure when exactly), the symbol on the left of the ads are the same quotation marks which are used for the posts. Have a recent screenshot:
Image
Thanks for the heads up! Unfortunately, I could not reproduce the issue. Will continue trying it. Also, as I pointed out, your concerns will be raised among the ABP team.
ManuelC

Re: [Under review] gutefrage.net search & content ads

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innerself wrote:Under review due to possible criteria violation. Recent changes made by Google in their AfC text ads have resulted in the automatic disappearance of the label. This currently only affects the ads at the bottom of the page on pages like this:

http://www.gutefrage.net/fragen/offene/1
Solved. The label shows again.
ManuelC

Re: [Added] gutefrage.net search & content ads

Post by ManuelC »

After valid concerns raised, Gutefrage.net Google AdSense text ad units between questions are now under review due to insufficient labeling. A batter label and more clear separation from the content will be asked. Changes should be deployed within the next 30 days.
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Re: [Added] gutefrage.net search & content ads

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innerself wrote:After valid concerns raised, Gutefrage.net Google AdSense text ad units between questions are now under review due to insufficient labeling. A batter label and more clear separation from the content will be asked. Changes should be deployed within the next 30 days.
Solved. Added back again.
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