Tha4dmin wrote:Hm... smells like fork time here. Please not that the combination of Adblockplus and Noscript are the two addons that make many of us stick to firefox, despite chrome offering a lot more performance. Wladimir, thanks for all the work you invested in this, but it seems your objectives have changed. I guess it's time for you to hand this one over to someone else. Of course this is your project, we are all glad for the work you invested into it, and would welcome you to keep improving it.
However, i suggest you strictly separate your companies activities to the advertisement market, if that's what you want to do nowadays. That's where you can get cash from, not from development.
Wladimir Palant wrote:1) I don't think that we get anything yet but we indeed hope to get some income this way to make the project sustainable. This doesn't mean that paying us is the requirement to be added to the exceptions list - the requirements a formulated here and they will probably become more precise as we gain experience (suggestions are welcome).
2) We made some bad experience when asking people to make a decision, quite frequently people would ignore the question on the first-run page for one reason or another and then wonder why Adblock Plus "isn't working". In fact, that's the reason why the first-run page was reworked - rather than asking, we now subscribe people to a filter list automatically and allow them to revert the decision easily
Xavier Antoviaque wrote:If I can give you an advice, it would be to try to allow for a lot more discussions before making this change.
enraged wrote:PS Your "user survey" is absolute BS. It's called a whitelist, and I'd put money on 99% of your users never seeing this "survey".
I don't think that we get anything yet but we indeed hope to get some income this way to make the project sustainable.
Wladimir Palant wrote:nitrox wrote:My suggestion would be is to add a tick box where the user can either tick to opt in or remove the tick to opt out.
If I understand correctly, you suggest duplicating the checkbox we have in Filter Preferences on the first-run page. This was the original design and it does save one click (the user can uncheck immediately instead of clicking "Filter Preferences" and unchecking there). The reason why I decided against allowing to change the filter subscription and the "acceptable ads" option directly on the first-run page: the first-run page is (obviously) a one-time thing. People change something there and they don't know how to bring it back to change their choice. If they change something in Filter Preferences - finding them again isn't hard.
Wladimir Palant wrote:nitrox wrote:Btw, It would be nice if you could add an option to let user know that they have acceptable ads turned on when they use adblock plus issue reporter to report that they see ads.
Yes, I think that some special treatment for this subscription in the issue reporter would be nice. But I'm not quite sure what's the best way to do it - a straightforward warning wouldn't do any good right now (people reporting "ad not blocked" will usually still do that because ads are actually not blocked, not because these ads are whitelisted). Anyway, for now we have the option to communicate back by setting status on the reports.
nitrox wrote:Users with privacy subscriptions aren't opted in to acceptable ads list by default. What about users who have DNT header enabled in firefox?
nitrox wrote:From the commit, i noticed it is hard coded only to official privacy list hosting urls. What about people using mirrors. For fanboy list, we have 3 more mirrors. We have quite a significant of our users on mirrors. Do people using privacy lists from mirrors are also opted out?
Wladimir Palant wrote:"Quite significant" as in how many? I've only added the official URLs as listed in the subscriptionlist, what would be the other ones?
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